Emmert How To's

by Carl Matthews updated 08/09/06

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This page describes how to overcome some of the difficulties we have with a 85 pound vise.

It's Break Time: How many Emmert vises can you find in Thomas Edison's Lab?
                    
http://pages.friendlycity.net/~krucker/Photos/edison.htm

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How to Ship an Emmert

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How to Restore an Emmert

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How to Install an Emmert

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Where to Buy a Tilting Jaw Insert

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How to Use an Emmert

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How to Repair Cast Iron

How to Ship an Emmert

 

At 86 lbs. for the large Emmert, shipping an Emmert is quite a task. The Oliver vise is even heavier. Here's what I've learned.....

 

I have received several Emmert vises and have paid $20 to $50 for the crates. With one Emmert, only the crate bottom showed up with the vise bolted on. What a mess! UPS is a great service but some workers are gorillas.


Crate for Emmert Vise
Here's a picture of a crate that I like and is very simple to make. It's made of 1/2" plywood with glued and screwed 2x2 corner and bottom supports. The inside width is just big enough to hold the vise jaws. The length is about 1" longer than the vise. The vise is opened almost to maximum to distribute the weight, the handle removed, then place the 85 lb. Emmert in the box. Tighten the screw (spindle) to clamp onto the 2x2 support on the bottom (supports are screwed to the sides). This keeps the vise from sliding in the box. Next screw some 1x2 supports to the inner sides of the crate just above the vise. These supports are longer that the vise is opened and keep it from bouncing up in the crate. Place the handle, tilt adjustment bracket and other items in bubble wrap. I like a Ziploc bag for items with screws and nuts in case they come off in transit. Next, screw on the top (no glue!) and label "OPEN TOP FIRST". My top was the full size of the crate and screwed to the 1/2" plywood sides. On the outside of the box, don't forget to write FRAGILE, DO NOT DROP and HEAVY. Also add two 1x2's to the bottom far enough apart to allow a hand  dolly to slide under the crate. Rope handles are a nice touch but may allow moisture in.

Lastly, a couple of notes on UPS charges. The maximum shipping weight for UPS is 150 lbs. Always, always, always insure the package. Cast iron is high in carbon which makes it brittle. Cast iron will crack and chip. In calculating insurance, I would add $100 for the crate (and hassle) to the sales price. The UPS insurance charge is only $2.45 for an $800 package and $3.85 for a $1200 package.

 

Now for the package pickup. A strange thing about UPS is that they charge more for taking a heavy package to the UPS Customer Counter. For a heavy package like these, it is $15 to $20 cheaper to have them to pickup the package (One time pickup) on your door step. They charge more to take it to their Customer Counter. It's more work for you to lug a 120 lb. box into your trunk, get it out and cart it to the counter and it costs more. It doesn't make sense. Check the rates for yourself.

 

 

How to Restore an Emmert

A Beautiful Type U3The best web site I've found on restoring a Emmert Vise is from Roger Van Maren. He had to fabricate a couple of damaged or missing parts, re-painted and mounted his Type U5 Emmert on a beautiful beech workbench. A detailed description is now available ourteous of Roger here: Page1, Page2, Page3.

How to Install an Emmert

 

It's not easy hanging an 87 lb. hung of cast iron under a workbench. It takes careful planning, head scratching, decision making and muscle. However, help is available. Grab your favorite beverage and look at these websites for help.

There are several good sites for Mounting an Emmert to your workbench.

 

The first one is John Gunterman's FAMOUS Emmert page at http://www.shavings.net/emmert.htm. John is also a well known Galoot and spokeshave expert.

 

His old website is still up at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/1824/emmert.htm.

 

Another great source for mounting your Emmert is from Roger Van Maren. His workmanship and attention to detail is outstanding. See Page2. Also he recommends Jamestown Distributors carries flat head wood screws up to #18. I used the 2-1/2" long bronze versions on my Emmert. http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/

 

The next one is from Union Hill Antique Tools. This is an excellent source for other tools and information. http://www.tooltimer.com/emmert.htm You'll also find Steve Johnson selling excellent tools on eBay as oldtoolmonger.

 

 

 

 

Where to Buy a Tilting Jaw Insert

Patrick Leach has a wealth of tool knowledge under his cap. He also sells a Tilting Jaw insert for only $75.00. It's available here,  http://www.supertool.com/emmert.htm.

He is famous for his Stanley Bench Planes, Blood and Gore. See also his major gloat over a yard sale patternmaker's tool chest.

 

Note the vise on the right has high fins on the collar and a taper adj. cam indicating a Type U2.

 

Thanks Patrick for your help with this Type Study!

Only $75.00

How to Use an Emmert

This is from the International Correspondence Schools of Scranton, PA.

How to Repair Cast Iron

Repairing cracked or broken cast iron is difficult. Normal welding works for steel but not cast iron. Special electrodes and heat control are necessary. George Langford describes how to repair John Ruth's cast iron hewing axe.
http://www.amenex.com/georgesbasement/jrrsaxe.htm

 

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